The climb "after the first belay, straight upwards (you know, you see an old aid climbing belay)" is a challenging route graded 8/8+ in an unspecified location. The description suggests a demanding ascent, likely requiring precise technique and strength. The presence of an old aid climbing belay hints at a history of difficult attempts and potentially loose or less-protected sections. Climbers tackling this route should be prepared for a sustained effort and bring their A-game.